AJR
Jun 27 2006, 02:58 AM
Gordon,
Following on from your comment in the Pinkie House topic regarding the Billings' prints, why do you think there are so few on the web?
Heatons of Tisbury has a number of these for sale, including one of Caerlaverock Castle. I have not purchased any of these prints because they are too large to fit in my acid-free album.
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 01:38 AM
I don't think that many books were produced originally. I 've been trying to confirm a snippet of information from the dark recesses of my memory, that the National Museum of Scotland has publishing rights and are copyright holders for most of his Scottish work. He has done some English sites, I found a print of Durham Cathedral on-line. I haven't found anything yet to confirm the museums thing, and I might be getting confused with Slezer, they do have the copyright on his work.....it is in some circumstances possible to copyright such work beyond the normal 60 years rule, particularly if you have a virtual monopoloy on source material.
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 01:48 AM
Pic of the bindings of Stanford University's copy of the book.There do seem to be a few prints available at Heatons, some sourced and credited to the book. The ones I'd found previously were credited as engravings by other people from Billing's drawings.
In addition, Florida State University have the four volume set and there are no doubt others elsewhere.
I think I must have been getting confused with Slezer, although a lot of his stuff is shown on-line, so I can't explain why there is so relatively few of Billing's drawings on-line.
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 01:55 AM
A wee bit explaining how Billing's work influenced Scottish Architecture in the Victorian era.
David Bryce
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 01:59 AM
Thanks for all that Gordon. If I find any of his works (decent images) I'll post them here.
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 02:51 AM
I searched for RW Billings and got maybe 1/2 dozen images, only Cawdor & Kildrummy were castles, but search for the book produced a few more, almost all at Heatons, and 3 at Scran.
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 03:29 AM
I'm not sure that the images on line do his work justice, but yes, it would be good. I'll do some too.
We need to convert most of the images, they are BMPs.
Click to view attachment Click to view attachmentDirleton x2
Click to view attachmentPinkie
Click to view attachmentTantallon
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 03:45 AM
Also Wintoun House.
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 03:50 AM
Huntly Castle
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 04:01 AM
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 04:17 AM
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 04:36 AM
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 07:13 AM
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 07:19 AM
Some non-castle prints by Billings.
Sweetheart Abbey, Melrose Abbey,
Iona, Elgin Cathedral
and Arbroath Abbey.
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 07:46 AM
Found a number of prints on the RIBA website.
Burgie Castle and Borthwick Castle
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 07:54 AM
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 08:06 AM
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 08:20 AM
Well there's ceratinly more than I thought, good stuff, I'm enjoying these. Your batch are better quality than the others, I'll dig some out from a dusty old tome or two.
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 08:20 AM
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 08:25 AM
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 08:48 AM
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 09:16 AM
More non-castle Billings' prints.
Melrose Abbey
Click to view attachmentCambuskenneth Abbey
Click to view attachmentChurch of St Regulus, St Andrews
Click to view attachmentDairsie Church
Click to view attachmentGeorge Heriot's Hospital, Edinburgh
Click to view attachmentHolyrood Abbey
Click to view attachmentIona Abbey
Click to view attachmentKing's Colllege Chapel, Aberdeen
Click to view attachmentMichael Kirk, near Elgin
Click to view attachmentRosslyn Chapel
Click to view attachmentSt Salvator's Church, St Andrews
Click to view attachmentSt. Andrew's Cathedral
Click to view attachmentLeuchars Parish Church
Click to view attachment
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 01:50 PM
Some of these are in Keay's, but it's nice to see them on screen. I'm working over thw weekend, so I'll do more early next week. Loads of ecclesiastical sites not here yet. Given that you've upped the quality and my scans are better, I'll give Heaton's a miss. Their images don't do him justice.
Love that Iona one particularly, I've got plans for that!
AJR
Jun 28 2006, 02:24 PM
The quality may be good, but it's a shame to have RIBApix written across them all. And yes, Heatons are very poor quality images. However, their service is pretty good, having bought a few prints from them in the past.
Hope the weekend goes well.
Gordon
Jun 28 2006, 03:29 PM
These are scanning well, considering the original image is only about 2 x2 inches.
Enjoy.
Click to view attachmentAirth Castle
Click to view attachmentArbroath Abbey
Click to view attachmentAuchans
Click to view attachmentBalvenie, note the Yett
Click to view attachmentKings College Aberdeen
Click to view attachmentSt Machar's Cathedral Aberdeen
AJR
Jun 29 2006, 02:28 AM
Found a couple on www.antiqueprints.com website.
Tolquhon Castle
Click to view attachmentTowie Barclay Castle
Click to view attachmentUdny Castle
Click to view attachmentThe Stirling set.
Click to view attachment
Gordon
Jun 29 2006, 02:59 PM
It's the way he uses the light that I like about Billings, it highlights everything.
The Tolquhon image is great.
AJR
Jul 21 2006, 04:17 AM
Found one of Hylton Castle (Durham) on eBay.
Gordon
Jul 21 2006, 05:25 AM
That'll be the Hylton Castle in Sunderland that featured on Time Team, I liked that one.
Gordon
Jul 21 2006, 05:55 AM
A better view of the Auchans print.
Click to view attachment
Gordon
Jul 21 2006, 06:15 AM
AJR
Jul 21 2006, 07:04 AM
Thanks for all those.

It's great to see the variety.
Gordon
Jul 21 2006, 08:00 AM
That last one could almost pass for a B/W photo. He was good.
Gordon
Jul 21 2006, 08:10 AM
Maybole, Castle and Tollbooth.
Click to view attachment
AJR
Jul 25 2006, 05:19 AM
I've seen some more Billings prints on e-Bay - 2 each of Midmar, Maybole and Newark Castles. The one of Hylton Castle is going haywire with the bidding, so I expect the same will happen to these ones at the last moment.
Gordon
Jul 25 2006, 08:10 AM
I guess they're popular then.
AJR
Jul 25 2006, 09:11 AM
I've put in bids for Midmar, Maybole and Newark Castles, but I expect to be outbid before bidding closes.
Gordon
Jul 26 2006, 03:44 AM
I'll wish you luck with them, one day when 'Taz' grows up and it's safe to put nice things on the wall........
Which Newark?
AJR
Jul 26 2006, 03:58 AM
Gordon
Jul 26 2006, 04:02 AM
Good one. They are nice.
AJR
Jul 26 2006, 04:31 AM
It's because they are nice that I suspect I won't get them. I'll wait and see.
Gordon
Jul 26 2006, 04:46 AM
Fingers crossed.
AJR
Jul 29 2006, 12:51 PM
Well - I got all five, for a total of £5.72, inclusive of postage and packing. Not a bad deal at all.
Duncan
Jul 29 2006, 01:59 PM
Heck no that aint bad, thats one great deal!
Gordon
Jul 30 2006, 05:50 AM
£5.72 ? you got them for nothing and just payed the postage!
Sure you haven't typo'd and moved the decimal points two places left................
AJR
Jul 31 2006, 03:15 AM
No typo, despite being very tired. But they are not mounted or framed.
The same seller has some other old prints / engravings from Grose's Antiquities for sale at knock-down prices, so I've bid for some of those too. My guess is that the seller either doesn't really know what they are selling, or it's a con and I won't actually get anything for my money. I suspect it is the former, but I'll let you know when (or if) they arrive.
Gordon
Jul 31 2006, 04:09 AM
Yup, something doesn't ring true.
AJR
Jul 31 2006, 04:26 AM
Gordon
Jul 31 2006, 05:45 AM
Agreed, £ 5.72 isn't much of a gamble, it might well pay off.
AJR
Aug 10 2006, 04:44 AM
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